Not only will they not accept donations made for Camp Cimarron, they have had donations made for Cimarron they were earmarked for a specific project that they accepted before “closing” the camp. The one I’m thinking of is the $1000 given to replace the doors at the Canodge. I know the doors were never replaced. I’m wondering if they returned the $1000?

As for the “closing” of the camp, at the last BOD meeting the board, under the recomendation of the executive committee, voted on closing Camp Cimarron ‘indefinitly’. The vote was tied. What this means for Camp Cimarron I don’t know. The parent handbook still says that candy money goes to camp improvements, but I have seen the budget and no candy money was credited to either camp this year.

And, “why haven’t you used this site to help raise the money for the camp?”

1. What camp? They closed Camp Cimarron. http://www.passionateamerica.com/camp-fire-kids-protest-camp-cimarrons-closing/

2. Ever heard of the candy sale? We did help raise money and HOC closed the camp anyways, the Executive Committee wants to sell the horses, Kim Kamp Leslie, Edna Stinnett, and Phyllis Morris sent a letter to the CC Riders instructors trying to extort (in my opinion) $71,844.43 from the horse riding program. If you think we want one more dollar going to these same group of people that have closed the camp and are planning to sell the horses you are insane. Some of these people are responsible for the problems Camp Fire Oklahoma is having now.

3. Major changes will have to happen within the HOC before I ever raise another dime for their organization. While we were standing outside the gate protesting several people stopped and offered to give money to save the horse, but we told them to keep their money because it is my belief that some people on the board have plans to sell Cam Cimarron and they have to get rid of the horses before they can do that.

4. I was at the meeting where the board voted to keep the CC Rider program and then a few days later, Kim Kamp Leslie, Edna Stinnett, and Phyllis Morris sent a letter to the CC Riders instructors telling them they needed to raise $71,844.43 in 11 days. Are they insane?

5. Several members of the board (in my opinion) are corrupt and don’t give a crap about anything other than saving their own behinds. There is no way I would recommend anyone give $1 to Camp Fire USA HOC at this time until they clean up their act and start working in the best interest of Camp Fire USA members.

6. There are some fine members of the HOC board and even they had not seen the letter sent to the CC Riders.

7. This is my personal website. I accept donation from readers to me. If I thought for one minute that Camp Fire USA HOC would spend that money wisely to help save programs and Camp Cimarron, I would donate some of the money I raise to Oklahoma Camp Fire. Camp Fire (and you Stan should not have a problem with me asking for donation or if I want to ask for donations to buy me a beer. The reception we protested at was serving wine and cheese (and younger members where not allowed to attend) even though the by-laws of Camp Fire say that no alcohol should be on Camp Fire property.

Stan feel free to tell everyone who you really are. I looking forward to meeting you at one of the next HOC meetings.

“however I will not reveal my source because some of the people on this board like to call people that are exposing their dirty little plans and make veiled threats.” So by posting other people’s names, you’re encouraging those supporting your ideas/plans to make threats? I need you to clarify that for me…

By the way, why haven’t you used this site to help raise the money for the camp? All I’ve seen is your plea to get to some gathering (which people seem to be helping out) and for your readers to support your site by “buying you a beer”. Again, just curious….