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Someone I know in LJ land put up a post Monday. In that post he tries to assert the following:

“Frankly, if Washington were alive today, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have gotten us into Iraq. He was a homefront kind of guy. Even Ben Franklin wouldn’t have. He’d have used diplomacy to win favor, and, failing that, taken a ‘just keep out of our way’ approach.”

That of course is ridiculous. Washington would have no sooner avoided Iraq when it comes to taking the fight to the enemy than he would have avoided his 1775 invasion of (British owned) Canada. As to trying to imply our founders wouldn’t have approved Iraq the people trying to take that tack fail to recognize we’ve already done this before. A glimpse in the history of my beloved Corps shows us that history is repeating itself.

Am I talking of when America pushed back fascism in WWII? No. Am I talking about when the nation ventured to Cuba, Asia and the South Seas in the Spanish-American war? No, even further back. We’re going to the the time period of 1799-1805, right after the founding of our nation. For you see the answer is there for us Marines. It’s there in our weapons (the Mameluke Sword), in our war records (the campaign of Lt. Presley O’Bannon), even in our song (”to the shores of Tripoli”).

One of the main pillars of liberalism is “Blame America First!” Thing is back then the Islamic world barely knew we even existed, none of the usual excuses for Islamic terror against America had been thought up yet. Of course that didn’t stop the “religion of peace” from attacking us, stealing our stuff, killing American civilians on the high seas and taking others as slaves. Thomas Jefferson who was at the time ambassador to France went to London to meet Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja (yeah, all of that was his name) who was the ambassador to Britain from Tripoli. Take note of Jefferson cause he’ll become relevant again soon. Now Jefferson asked Haji Adja why they were attacking our ships when there had been to provocation. Adja’s answer is the same thing muj have been spouting since the pirates of Mednia first started their raping and pillaging:

“That it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

Sound familiar?

“I tell Muslims to believe in the victory of God and in Jihad against the infidels of the world. The killing of Jews and Americans is one of the greatest duties. “ - Osama Bin Laden

So we’ve got our first similarities between the Barbary Wars and the War on Terror:

  • Islamic terrorists (Barbary Pirates, Al Qaeda)
  • Killing American civilians.
  • Using the Koran to justify their atrocities.
  • Both are “stateless” groups.

Now let’s continue our history lesson shall we? That Jefferson fellow, he goes and gets himself elected president. If one is to look into the words and actions of Jefferson it becomes clear that for his day, Tom…was a liberal. So as raids increased and more an more Americans were taken as slaves by the Moors, Congress under Jefferson tried to do what liberals do best in the face of fascism, appeasement. They tried to pay ransom to the Moors in exchange for the freedom of captured American sailors. As is natural in such situations, no amount of appeasement was enough.

The Barbary Pirates during this time had veritable carte blance. They engaged in their piracy all over the Mediterranean, the west coast of Africa even clear up the western coast of Europe to Iceland. It should also be noted that the Barbary pirates didn’t call themselves pirates, they called themselves mujahideen (strugglers in the cause of Islam). Gee, isn’t there another group that calls themselves that today? So finally as appeasement is becoming more and more difficult and less and less effective Jefferson tried to get the nations to Europe to join a coalition to do something about it, they refused. Many were also trying to appease them (paying tribute) with some even enabling them (Portugal ending it’s blockade of the Straight of Gibraltar thus allowing the Berbers free access to the Atlantic). Thus the similarities continue:

  • Liberals attempting to appease Islamic animals.
  • Mujahideen doing it for “allah”.
  • Spineless Europe trying to appease and even enabling Islamic terror.

But we’re just getting going folks! So, Jefferson sends the newly created US Navy to blockade Tripoli Harbor and “send a message” to message to the other Berber factions. Like most liberal military expeditions, it was a glorious failure. They managed to run their flagship the USS Philadelphia aground where it was promptly captured and it’s crew of 300 made slaves of the Pasha. How about that message eh? “The US is weak and incompetent”, message received. Paniced, Jefferson then did what again liberals do in such situations. He turned to special ops to try and save his rear end and avoid a public relations nightmare. Well they didn’t really have spec ops in those days but it was a secret mission. He sent William Eaton to find the guy the Pasha had stolen power from, a man named Hamet who was living in exile in Egypt and use him to overthrow the Pasha. But yet again liberism would rear it’s ugly head. Jefferson was growing tired of the war that had been declared on us and sought to cut and run. He pulled Eaton’s funding and men. Despite this Eaton still found Hamet, convined him to join, hired a bunch of mercs and together with a squad of Marines under OBannon marched 600 miles across the desert and took Tripoli. The defeated Pasha presented OBannon with the Mameluke Sword which is still worn by Marine officers to this day. So we’ve got even more similarities:

  • US engages in a foreign war to end a threat of Islamic terror.
  • Liberals screw up a fight against Islamists.
  • Liberals turn coward after a very short time and then begin to undermine said war in an attempt to cut and run.
  • US Marines get the job done in spite of the American left!

History repeats itself. Only this time, they’re hoping they can undermine it before our troops secure victory. Let’s see if this post will receive that so far elusive VSOA (Vixen Seal Of Approval).



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  1. What the hell is wrong with you? Did you miss your nap? Need your diaper changed? My god don’t you ever get tired to being a walking collection of cliches? I thought we answered your ridiculously phrased question in the past. Yes Mike, nuke em. Nuke em all, nuke the world, kill everything till it’s just a big glowing ball. Is that what you want to hear? Happy now? I don’t delete comments usually but yours just came close to make the cut. I can’t say what Bill will do to it though. Don’t asked such retarded questions if you want people to answer you. Maybe you should try ‘thought out’ ones instead.

    And no it’s FIAR who enjoys radioactive liberty, duh! He’s even got the domain registered. BTW, I earned the title of warrior by serving my nation in the most demanding of military branches. What have you done to serve your nation? (No, lighting up a ‘fatty’ doesn’t count.)


  2. Haha. Mike makes me laugh.

    Something tells me he’s not intending to be funny though, at least not for the reasons *I* find him funny.


  3. I doubt I’ll get a serious answer

    Nor do you deserve one.


  4. Mike needs to learn how to create a link next time he uses copyrighted property like Radioactive Liberty©.

    Anyways, there’s no point in answering a question founded in utter bullshit. You take a false premise, “I’m just saying that if the President thinks he may need to protect US troops from Iranian IEDs by possibly attacking Iran” and ask someone to try to predict the future.

    However, I am bored right now, and like to kill time through pointless activities like video-games and lobbing clue-grenades™ at stupid hippies.

    I would imagine US Stinger missile systems have been used against the US military as well, since we sent the muj tons of ‘em to fight the Soviet invasion. In fact, since we’re talking military history, it was the muj’s ability to take out Soviet helicopters that drug the invasion to a stalemate.

    Furthermore, I would imagine that war-planners have contingency plans to attack Iran and Russia simultaneously. We probably have plans to attack Cuba, and Venezuela too. It’s just good policy; you can never be too prepared.

    With all that being said, we will not have to attack Iran or Russia to keep them in line as long as surrendercrats like you don’t force a surrender in Iraq. Look at what’s going on in Iran. There is plenty of political unrest. Their only source of income is exporting oil. They can’t refine their own oil. You do the math.

    This is all connected. US presence in Iraq is the lynch-pin. Russia and Iran are trying to fight a proxy war against the US through the “insurgency” in Iraq. Why? Because both countries know they can’t take us in a real fight. If they can’t push the US out of Iraq and the middle east right now, they will never be able to, and will have to deal with us.

    You idiot leftists make one serious mistake when appraising Iraq. You act like the war was mishandled. The war was brilliant. It’s the nation-building part that hasn’t been handled well. The US military is still the preeminent fighting force on the face of the planet and if we decided to attack Russia, Iran, and China, we could pull it off as long as we aren’t trying to stick around to build a nation.

    Remember, in the words of Frankj:

    …the only way to stop fascism is through an informed populace and well-armed United States Marines… but mainly just the Marines.


  5. You know Passionate America gets the most posts when I pay a visit

    And? A hospital gets the most business during an ebola outbreak. A police station does record business during a riot. Doesn’t mean you want those things.

    When has he said that Mike? When? Please, gives us a link to a documented case of him saying that because all that I can seem to find is him bending over backwards to say he WON’T attack Iran. Your so called “simple questions” need to be based in the real world and not in fantasy scenarios that exist only in your mind. Now if you’re done being schooled we adults have other things to do.



  6. witch

    Damn mikey showed up and I missed it, NOT!
    Mike is a troll, and not a very good one at that.


  7. Well, I guess I have to post this

    Sorry, I couldn’t pass it up.


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